The All Progressives Congress (APC) Abia State party
chairman, Hon. Donatus Nwankpa in an
interview granted to journalists in Abia State speaks about the 100 days
in office of President Muhammadu Buhari and
Governor Okezie Victor Ikpeazu and
among other party issues.
The excerpt; President Muhammadu
Buhari just marked 100 days in office. What is your assessment about the
administration?
The first thing that any leadership has to do is to restore the
confidences of the people. President Buhari’s administration has given the
people confidences that the leadership has the capacity to respond to their
needs.
Secondly, the world is now a global village. So, there is
the need to integrate Nigeria into the mainstream of international politics and
to bring Nigeria at par with comity of developed, advanced and responsible
nations of the world. And if you watch the reception accorded to Mr. President
in the United, France and so many other countries, you will see that Nigeria
has reclaim its pride of among the comity nations and today, call your people
anywhere in this country, they will tell you that the respect, integrity and
prestige of Nigerian citizenry has come back to take its rightful position.
The President has shown his commitment to the rule of law.
If you watch every tribunal, there has not been any interference on what they
are doing as I speak to you now. Look at Imo State for example; a lot of case
involving APC has been going on. Look at Abia as, there has not been any tall
order from anywhere, maybe as ‘Oga’ directed. So this has shown that this
government is discipline.
Look at the anti-corruption war that we are fighting, people
have taken governance as license for squandering money and scavenging, but the
present government has said no, that this is not what governance is all about.
It is about trust, people surrendering their sovereignty and personal interest
for the government to manage their affairs because they have confidence that you
will give them something better. For long, the confidence the people have in
governance have seriously being undermined and have been taken for granted. You
will see a situation where one man will have twenty cars, take about one
trillion naira from the national coffers; money that will change the lives and
living conditions of our people and in most cases they will resort to plea
bargain to return part of the money that they looted which doesn’t belong to
him.
We are proud to say that what other leaders of the country
could not do in many years, Mr. President has done it in just 100 days of his
administration in office; petrol now sell at N87 and it is in every filling
station. That is why we are saying that Mr. President has brought this country
in the limelight again.
Look at the military and how they are tackling insurgency.
Today, boko haram is seeking for dialogue and it is no longer the other way
because the President has not just fought the war on the pages of newspapers,
he has shown operational capacity, military intelligence capacity and the
Presidential Will to bring the country to stability.
You can see the way things are going, remember that this is
a mess of many years and so, it is not what that is going to be corrected in a
day or 100 days. 100days cannot correct the misrule and maladministration of
over 20years of this nation. But what we are saying is that the president has
shown focus, a vector pro-approach. He is not a scalar, he has direction and we
are really comfortable that today, somebody has known that history has beckoned
on him to restore back the dignity and to redirect the ship of Nigeria towards
progress and that is why we are saying that the 100days in office is not a
wasted period.
What is your reaction
about the anti-corruption war of the President which has been described in some
quarters as being selective?
The first thing that you defined is what is selective? What
is selective is that the anti-corruption war is not done without documentation.
The anti-corruption is not frivolous or a fairy tale. If you bring document,
people must originate something because the presidency is not writing petition
against anybody. What we are asking is that if you have any fact even against
Mr. President or anyone that you are very sure it can prove beyond every
reasonable doubt that a corrupt practice has taken place, bring it. After all,
the Senate President is today being investigated for allegedly committing an
offence. Is he not of APC? Has Mr. President said no to it because he is of the
APC and the senate President and it should not be talked about? Mr. President
has allowed the rule of law to take place.
Let me ask those of them who said that the President is
being selective to give us any substantial evidence against anybody and because
he is of the APC or political accolades of Mr. President, the case has been
swept under the carpet. I think those things are escapee approach to a well
known issue that is on ground to discourage or cause some distraction in the
process of bringing Nigeria to sanity.
What will you make
out of the Buhari administration’s fight and approach against terrorism and insurgency?
Mr. President has not been timid about his fight against
insurgency; he has shown determination. Insurgency is a threat to national
unity. It has taken innocent lives, it has undermined the economy, integrity
and corporate existence of the federal Republic of Nigeria and the President
has shown that he is President for all and for that, he has shown resolve,
commitment and one that knows what to do at times like this he has to put his
experience in the military into action.
Though the President has made public why he chose members of
his kitchen cabinet or rather, domestic staff but the dust is yet to settle in
the southeast who believed that they would have gotten one of their own in the
list. Do you toe the line of Mr. President? the most important thing that the
constitution state clearly is that every state must have a member of the
national executive council and we have 36 states of the federation, when Mr.
President appoints his ministers and my state didn’t get, I will now know
whether Mr. President is being fair to me or not.
But when you come to what you call kitchen cabinet, who do
send to your kitchen to get you food? You don’t politicize the person who
serves you food and tea because I am taking your description of those
appointments as kitchen cabinet. You know that kitchen is the stomach of a man
and the stomach is determines by what you fed it with and for that, I am not
going to talk about on how he appointed or how he didn’t appoint them, that is
why all those people that he has appointed are not entitled to be screened by
the National Assembly. Remember that unnatural situation calls for unnatural
solution. This is a period where we have war against insurgency, an attempt to
balkanize and brutalize Nigerians through terrorism. And for that, whatever it
takes to bring them down, even if it means one family producing those people,
this is what Nigeria needs at this point in time. Remember that Ex-President
Ebele Goodluck Jonathan used Anyim Pius Anyim from Ebonyi State, Yar’ Adua
started with Babagana Kingibe and later to Mahmud Yayale Ahmed. When Shagari
was the president of the country he used Shehu Musa. These things are more or
less, personal relationship. People are trying to see the office of the SGF as
if it is an alternate Presidency, it doesn’t happen. The office of the SGF is
for the chief servant and the chief writer of the president. You don’t appoint
my chief of staff, my secretary, PA (personal Assistance) and my Press
Secretary. There some positions that has to do with being personal and what I
am telling you is from a wider political perspective and from the constitution
provision.
APC for the first time is coming into government and what
they want to do is to achieve result, to bring a change and that change could
be attitudinal, changes of perception and maybe there has been this
conservative perception the zoning formula and that has not give us the
required transformative changes. Let us for once give Mr. President some
benefits of doubt.
Will you say it has
been so good for the state, Abia in this 100days in office?
One of the problems that we have with the constitution is
that it doesn’t make provisions for all litigations to be finished before the
swearing in of officers in the state and national. That will do a lot of good
thing for us. When a governor is still facing the tribunal, there is serious
distraction whether we like it or not. We must say the truth. Secondly, just
like Mr. President have been open to let the Nigerian public know that some
people stole money and that there is no money to work and he is doing some
things to make some people to refund what they have so that we can work. You
know from the history of where the governor of Abia State is coming from, he
has not been courageous enough to tell us this is what my predecessor left in
the office for me. This predecessor that was still appointing people even the
night to his leaving office as the governor of the state, he has left a lot of
thing that a 100days cannot clean and this is continuity. Continuity of
conservatism, Continuity of rigma-rolling and that is why the present governor
of Abia (Dr. Okezie Ikpeazu) has not defined his identity. Whether you like it
or not, you can’t say this is the identity of the governor of Abia State. He is
still living in the past because most of his cabinet members were already there
before he came in as the governor of the state and most of them were those whom
he was asked to use. Until Mr. Governor appoints his own commissioners and his
men, then we can start seeing something that we can comment about.
Look at the road construction, if you watch some of the
roads that he is engaging on, you will see the zeal. But does that zeal
transform to intellectualism and approach? The zeal is making him take too many
roles and you know when a soldier takes so many fronts at a time, invariably,
there is going to be crisis and the zeal he has, might not be commensurate with
the resources he has at his disposal. So, in that case, what we are praying for
is for people to give him a little time, and then we can definitely access him.
But for now, the governor has not separated himself from the past. He has not
defined his identity. He has not shown us whether he is going to be different
from the past.
From the way you are
talking and the way the party has being quiet after the case involving the
governorship candidate of the party was strike out by the election petition
tribunal, it seems that the insinuation that the party (APC) are romancing each
other is true?
Listen to me, we (APC) is above infantile criticism and
radicalism. APC is a matured party; look at the kind of president that we
produced. We didn’t produce a rookie and infantile juvenile to be the President
of this country and the idiosyncrasies of the leadership at the top defines the
real character of those behind. Let us not for the purposes of politics lose
being realistic. A child must learn to crawl before it start running. What we
are saying is that the governor of Abia has to show his own personal identity.
He is still living in the past and how does that show that we are compromising,
but we are only trying to show that there is still the need to give a chance to
prove whether he has the capacity to govern the state. I have not become a
chairman to engage in infantile radicalism. What is important today in Abia is
what the masses will benefit from the state and national level.
So, APC is not in any romance with anybody or any party. But
what we are saying is that we need to allow the governor some time, but like I
said earlier, the Governor should come out and tell us (Abians) what he has
(funds), this is where is going, this is what I need and this is where he is
coming from.
A group, Save Abia
Initiative for change wrote a petition to the EFCC to probe the immediate
governor of the state. Do you subscribe to their agitation?
APC is not against any attempt to look into any form of embezzlement,
fraud, misconduct, misappropriation on present and past administration, we
subscribed to that. The most important thinmg is that people should not be
speculative so that the security agencies could be assisted by having facts and
having provable evidence and then, it will now be left to the EFCC and if they
feel to do it, APC will now come out to speak against it. We must clean
ourselves from the past and change our position of feeding on the national
treasury.
What do you make out
of the outburst between Osita Okechukwu and Rochas Okorocha, Imo State
Governor?
Osita Okechukwu is not the spokesman of the APC in the
southeast zone. He is one of those that we will continue to look at as people
who are not in line with the realities of the moment. The realities of the
moment is that any southeasterner in APC that said that Rochas didn’t
contribute to the success of APC in the southeast and this country is only
being mischievous, irresponsible and economical with the truth. When Okorocha
started this battle that we should integrate ourselves with the change, a lot of
people saw him as a sellout. They saw him as not only as a pariah, but also as
a deviant and today, they are busy complaining. Rochas after losing out from
the President, he started his governorship campaign and was at the same time
sponsoring rallies within the southeast. Were Abians, Anambrarians, Enugu and
Ebonyi people going to vote for him? We only saw the write up attributed to
Osita Okechukwu as one of the mischievous, misguided and manipulated write-ups
because we believe that some people somewhere; may be not APC members want to
use them to gain chief popularity. Today, everyone want to join APC, everybody
wants to identify with the party. It was Okorocha, Nyerere, Osita Izunaso,
Chris Ngige, Hon. Donatus Nwakpa, Prince Paul Ikonne, George Moghalu, Emma
Enukwu, Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, Ikechi Emenike, Acho Obioma, Stanley Ohajuruka were
among the people that stood their grounds.
Just like this write-up in the Independent National
Newspaper where one of the chairmen purportedly said that Idika Kalu Idika was
one of the party members before primaries. Could somebody of that stature have
joined this part without the state knowing or without it being media hype? Did
you hear about his name here? Can somebody of that stature can jump from the
wall and the kitchen. Strongly believe that the chairman never and to an
extent, I believe that he was misquoted. Kalu Idika kalu cannot join the party
from behind. It means that we are trying to undermine him or even question his
integrity as a person and if such a thing happens, we will set a committee to
investigate how he became a member from the backdoor. Nkechi Nwaogu followed
the due process and today she is a member of the party; she entered from the
ward to the LGA and it was done open. Then look at the status of KLalu Idika
Kalu. So, what I am trying to say is that, some of this people and system are
system that are making Osita to speak what they are speaking for; people who
were not bonafide members of the party.
I still believe that Osita Okechukwu didn’t say that but if
he has said that Okorocha didn’t contribute the success of Mr. President’s
victory in the just concluded election, I would say that he was not a member of
the APC because there is no bonafide member of the APC that could say that
about Owelle Rochas Okorocha. Why did the federal government descend on him in
the first instance?
Judging from the
position of your party that there was no election in Abia, many people were surprise
that you (APC) couldn’t further your case after it was struck out at the
tribunal?
There were attempts by the party and the candidate to
restore back the case. You are aware that electoral matter is a highly
technical matter and there were a lot of technical loopholes and I as speak to
you (journalists), we are still studying the situation as it affects both the
party and our legal counsel on this matter. Some of you should know me. I was a
former member House of the House for 8years. I was a commissioner, I was an
adviser to the governor and for me to have advised a governor means that there
is something in my brain to offer. So, to the glory of God today, the party has
made me state chairman. I attended a very good school where I was the senior
prefect and headed Student Union in this country and I lectured Political and Defence
Studies in NDA (Nigeria Defence Academy) briefly. With the experience that I have
garnered within all these period has made me to be more knowledgeable. I can’t
scavenge on things and can’t in so many frivolities. We are not just talking of
today. We are redoing and restructuring a lot of things for tomorrow and we shouldn’t
be parochial.
And let me tell you one thing about cases; there are a lot
of things that have to do with documentation, who are avails you with
documentation, INEC and there are situations that a lot of things that you need
to present and that is the reason why I said that election matters are highly
technical, but the lay man might not understand it. I don’t think that the panel
said that we are not serious. The thing the panel said is that, the legal
department came late and that is one of the grounds to which you can strike out
the case on technicalities because there were some internal bickering among our
legal team, but that is not what I want to go into now. I was not the lawyer
and we do not discuss our legal counsels in the open.
After the announcement of the Presidential election
result, we have witnessed defection of people from other parties to your party.
What impact has that have on the party in the state?
Every party must reposition for 2019. Why they must
reposition for 2019 is that it is an open race and we must also reposition in
case there are changes. One thing that you should know is that we are not
against people joining the party, but APC is also interested in opposition. We want
people to remain in their party to provide formidable, responsible and positive
opposition to APC at whatever level that we are. We are not afraid of
opposition because the opposition will help us to do better than the previous administration.
Nobody is joining APC based on threat; they are individual decisions because
for some time, some people did not understand APC and now that they are
understanding it, they are coming in. any moment from now, a group led my Chief
Tony Ukasoanya will soon be joining openly to the party. That is why when I was
responding to this issue of Idika Kalu, it is not that he is not welcome to the
party, he will be an asset but we do not want some people to trivialize him. We
do not want some to demystify him and undermine his personality as if he is
doing something sinister or doesn’t have a procedural approach; this is a
person that has headed both the finance and economic planning in this country. So
he is not the kind of fish that you will eat without feeling the bone. So, in
that regards, for those who are joining us, we welcome them. We are only asking
them to follow the proper channel and procedure so that their joining will not
be seen as if that we have something sinister against them and one thing that
you have to know is that APC in Abia is positioned, well organized for
tomorrow. Whether people join us or stay in the opposition, we are ready to
play our role to provide a better government for Abia.
The PDP is claiming
that most of the things APC is doing now is what they started during the
Jonathan’s administration.
No government comes in isolation, government is a continuum.
You see, we don’t want the PDP to die of frustration. So, that is why when they
claim some things, we will allow them to enjoy the euphoria of their dream. But
we (APC) are talking about realistic transformation agenda. PDP were talking
about Transformation Agenda while they were busy running a circle show. They were
busy making Nigerians poorer, growing a few rich. They were busy destroying the
economic fabrics of this country. They busy institutionalizing dishonesty and
let me tell you APC or myself will not bring ourselves to the level of the PDP
publicity Secretary who engages in journalistic scavenging instead of talking
about realistic things, he is busy junketing one comment or the other. How many
of them can be like Lai Mohammed? They trying to learn how to play the role of
the opposition and let me tell you one thing about the PDP are not good students.
That is why they are trying to learn how to be in opposition
and in trying to learn how to be in the opposition, every day they keep falling
and getting injured. We just pray that they will provide us with formidable,
positive and responsible opposition so that this government will do better. Because
the more they keep scavenging and showing infantile reactions, the more they
live the government to continue to laugh at them.
Abia APC chairman speaks on President Buhari and Governor Ikpeazu's 100days in Office
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